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27th
September - AfriNIC Plenary I
i) AfriNIC Corporate Update – Adiel
A. Akplogan
Adiel talked about the Board's 2008-2010 strategic
plan for AfriNIC and that members will be consulted for input and
participation.
He showed the growth in the allocation of internet
resources in Africa, discussed the exhaustion of the IPv4 central
pool and the need to transition to IPv6.
He discussed the importance of resource certification
particularly for securing resources especially in the post-exhaust
IPv4 environment where there will be greater trading of ipv4 resources.
He said there is a need to improve the quality
of AfriNIC's service to its members and that the organisation will
be hiring more technical staff next year to improve its operations.
He also mentioned that AfriNIC will be moving to new office space
to handle staffing growth.
To view the presentation, click
here.
ii) Board Activity Update – Sunday
Folayan
The following activities have occurred since the
last board meeting in Abuja:
- Passing a resolution for staff to draw increased public awareness
toIPv6 issues.
- Working on the constitution which is now available for public
comment.
- Working on an MOU with AfrISPA.
- Resolved to participate in IGF, Rio.
- Have discussed parallel markets for IPs and current exhaustion
of the IPv4 pool.
- Policies but are yet to take a position.
- Aim to set the foundation for a strategic plan for IPV6, which
they initiated at a recent board retreat.
- See presentation for further details.
iii) Joint NRO Statistics – Ernest
Byaruhanga
Ernest Byaruhanga presented the NRO joint statistics
for AfriNIC, APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC and RIPE NCC. He showed the distribution
of the IPv4 address space, a yearly and cumulative total of ASN,
IPv4 and IPv6 allocations/assignments made by RIRs to LIRs, and
IPv6 allocations made by IANA to the RIRs. He provided links to
data sources.
To view the presentation, click
here.
Discussions:
William Stucke enquired who allocated the IPv4
to AfriNIC region in 2001.
Ray Plzak clarified that the other RIRs allocated
this.
A speaker from the floor asked if the one /8 which
has been allocated is enough. He commented that there are several
enterprises that use IPv4 addresses, and noted that most of them
obtain these addresses from Europe and other regions, not from AfriNIC.
He asked AfriNIC what plan they have for these allocations to come
from AfriNIC.
Ernest - responded to the first question asked,
stating that the /8 was received in January 2007 and, looking at
the current trend, this should be adequate. He added that AfriNIC
hope to obtain an additional /8 in 2008. Ernest commented that the
other question should perhaps be answered by the board.
An AfriNIC Board member stated that a number of
satellite carriers do have AfriNIC allocations.
Adiel - noted that several organisations are still
using NATs and other techniques as opposed to strictly using IPv4
obtained from AfriNIC. He further noted that this is also why AfriNIC
are placing emphasis on training as awareness is important to let
people know that they can obtain IP addresses from AfriNIC. He added
that AfriNIC are happy to hear additional ideas on this and that
they are pushing so that the operator can receive what they need
today.
Leo Vegoda, IANA - wished to clarify that there
are two /8s, 41 and 196, marked to be reserved for AFriNIC in the
IANA IPv4 registry.
A speaker from the floor wished to do a quick check
to clarify an issue, he wished to place a perspective that the current
allocation depicts a depletion date of 2014. He expressed his concerns
for more work needing to be done with regards to projections commenting
that it would be necessary to determine the current activities in
the African region and to identify the regional plans. He expressed
his belief that these plans may effect current projections and that
it would be good to have this in place, noting that he was unsure
if regional plans would affect AfriNIC's plans for the future.
Ernest clarified that the use of NAT is discouraged
in AfriNIC documents and that whenever AfriNIC staff receive requests
of this nature, they discourage it.
Adiel - noted that the document that is used to
reach these projections adds factors that allow AfriNIC to make
these projections. He noted that if AfriNIC members have a need
to request the resources they will get them. He further added that
no matter what AfriNIC's projection is, the key point is how we
are going to manage the IANA pool, noting these issues are things
AfriNIC would like to focus on.
Brian Longwe, Kenya - requested to ask AfriNIC
7 participants about two major issues. The first issue, he noted,
had already been addressed, which is the issue of increasing awareness
for new LIRs. He added that although these issues are being worked
on there is a need to continue work in this area. He then commented
on the other issues that he felt was a bigger issue, being that
at an operational level, many African ISPs still use NAT. He expressed
his concern that this is holding Africa back when addressing the
issue of obtaining number resources and using them the way they
should be used.
A speaker from the floor clarified that it is one
thing to tell people what to do, but another thing to have people
change their behaviour. He has asked members of the room if they
have any responses to this question.
Rob Hansen, - wished to clarify the status of 192
196?
Ernest – clarified the status
A speaker from the floor wished to draw on Bryan
Longwe’s comments, about the layer nine level, he expressed
that this is a level 9 issue and that technical people know what
needs to be done, however the economic side does not add up with
the policy side. He expressed his concerns that he feels this is
a critical component and that the African community need to create
awareness of the business sense to people in order to help bring
about a change.
Jordi Palet - commented on the usage of NAT in
other regions, which, he noted, is not perhaps the same as in Africa,
it's really difficult at this stage to convince people to change
as it means the cost of renumbering networks and other issues so
there is sometimes some other reasons. He commented that it will
be much better to, instead of asking people to renumbering their
network, to keep doing what they are doing, but for new customers
use IPv6.
Allen - commented that if you as a customer find
yourself behind an NAT you should tell your provider and complain
and let them know that you do not want this. He expressed that perhaps
if the customers complain NAT use could be stopped.
Paul Wilson - commented that in the APNIC regions,
the NAT is heavily used, for example in India, and that APNIC have
not been able to address this as downstream ISPs cannot obtain this
and they are not big enough to come to APNIC for resources. So there
are at times 2 layers of NATS. Paul clarified that he made this
point at the last APNIC meeting that this behaviour has made India
have a very low deployment of addresses in India, this did ring
alarm bells and made them (Indian ISPs) think that perhaps there
is something they need to do
A speaker from the floor commented that IPs usage
and costs impact on the use of NATS as companies cannot afford the
costs, also there is a lack of communication between AfriNIC and
the end users and this is a problem.
A speaker from the floor clarified that when AfriNIC
gets to your country with their outreach they will let your community
know that they can get their addresses from AfriNIC.
Philip Smith - further commented on Paul Wilson’s
comments about NAT use in India, stating that there is only a fraction
of a /8 allocated to a country with a population of over a billion
people. He noted that people in this region still have no idea that
they can get their addresses directly from AfriNIC. He stressed
the need that we all help spread this word and not just expect the
registries to do so.
Mark Elkins - stated that he needs NAT, as long
as he has NAT he can control over what comes in and goes out of
his network
Adiel - further commented on the issue that it
has come down to awareness and how the operator hears the issue
and takes this message back to their communities. As Philip said,
this is an issue that we must all be responsible for creating awareness
of. He expressed that we need to all work together on spreading
this word. He further added that the issue of NAT in contrary is
to educate people from layer one to layer nine. AfriNIC cannot come
up with a list of ISPs using NAT, but we can if we know that there
is an issue in a particular country extend outreach and get the
word into that community.
David Conrad, ICANN - getting addresses from a
registry may be trivial compared to getting space from an ISP. You
need to have an ISP route the addresses. If you obtain the address
space you need to find an ISP that will route it. Perhaps AfriNIC
could look into these issues, He further commented that in about
five years the techniques that are used in Africa presently may
be in high demand as there will be no more IPv4 and everyone will
need to know how to use NATs.
iv) NRO-NC/ASO-AC Update – Alan P.
Barrett
Allan Barrett described the NRO and the role and
duties of the NRO-NC within the NRO. He described the ASO-AC and
said that the NRO-NC fulfils the role of the ASO-AC according to
the MOU between ICANN and the NRO.
He discussed membership representation on the NRO-NC,
AfriNIC's representatives and talked about the group's mailing list,
website and other means of communication.
He explained the tasks of the ASO-AC and its role
in ICANN appointments and governance issues. He noted two new global
policy proposals, past meetings, outreach workshops and the upcoming
meeting in Los Angeles in November.
To view the presentation, click
here.
v) RIR Updates:
- APNIC, Paul Wilson
Paul Wilson gave an update on the member survey
conducted at APNIC and presented an analysis of the survey. He highlighted
the confidentiality of the respondents on the survey. He also listed
the priority areas namely: Technical Research and Development, Streamline
process, increase accessibility of meetings and policy process,
represent the needs of ISPs, Expanding training activities, improving
APNIC website, Support ISP Education in AP Region, Resource certification
and expand communication and outreach.
He closed the presentation by inviting all participants to share
their views on their understanding of the term ‘Critical Internet
Resource’.
To view the presentation, click
here.
- ARIN, Ray Plzak
Ray introduced the ARIN delegation that was present
at AfriNIC 7.
A copy of the ARIN Report, September 2007 was distributed to the
participants.
Ray explained that the ARIN board of trustees issued
a resolution in May 2007, advising the Internet community that migration
to a new version of the Internet Protocol, IPv6, will be necessary
to allow continued growth of the Internet.
Ray noted that at the upcoming ARIN meeting in
New Mexico, the ARIN Board of Trustees will be attending Board of
trustees retreat.
Ray explained the outreach activities that have
been conducted by ARIN and highlighted upcoming outreach activities
that ARIN will be participating in.
Ray noted that ARIN will be releasing two new comic
books next months which focus on IPv4 depletion and IPv6 uptake.
Ray noted that the ARIN board reaffirmed that the
policy development process can reflect what the community thinks
about legacy address space. He further noted that this is prevalent
as most of the legacy address space resides in the ARIN region.
One discussion was if these address holders should enter a contract
with ARIN, become more a part of the community and work more within
the PDP.
He expressed some views of members of the ARIN
community of recognising that there will become a point when there
will not be any IPv4 address space left in the IANA pool, although
there will of course still be IPv4 address space, therefore discussion
has been focusing on what needs to be done internally to enable
ongoing handling of IPv4 addresses. He noted that some policy proposals
that will be discussed at the upcoming ARIN meeting next month,
will deal with this issue.
Ray then updated the consultation and suggestion
process at ARIN, noting that there were a few odd ones, however
there were some very good responses, and that this procedure enabled
separating operational matters from the policy development process.
Ray noted that further information can be found
on the ARIN website.
To view the hand-out, click
here.
- LACNIC, Ricardo Patara
Ricardo Patara mentioned that the result for the
high number of members for IPv6 is due to the effective campaign
for IPv6 awareness. He highlighted the membership evolution at LACNIC,
mentioning that that the increasing number is due to the fact that
LACNIC has formalised the relationship with the Brazilian NIR. He
mentioned that the LACNIC has undergone major organisational change:
namely the acquisition of an office space. He also spoke about the
strategic planning of LACNIC and presented the vision and mission
statement. He gave an update of the LACNIC X meeting. He presented
the collaboration between LACNIC and the Information Society in
LAC and the E-LAC.
He finished by inviting the members to the next
LACNIC meeting in Brazil.
To view the presentation, click here.
- RIPE NCC, Axel Pawlik
Axel Pawlik opened the presentation by emphasising
the need develop ‘Disaster Preparedness’ by the following
means: emergency plan, ensure full business continuation plan, member
benefit and corporation among RIR. He gave an update of the major
changes at RIPE NCC, at the team level as well as the focus areas.
He presented the Vision and Strategy of RIPE NCC and presented the
certification in the RIPE region. He spoke about members and outreach
(Surpassing 5000 members with the biggest growth in Russia). He
also spoke about government and ‘enhanced corporation’
in the region. He gave an update of the RIPE 54 meeting and presented
the upcoming meetings.
To view the presentation, click
here.
vi) ICANN Report – Anne Rachel Inne
Anne Rachel Inne opened the session by presenting
the general principles of operation of ICANN. She also gave an update
on the upcoming events. She listed the main topics that will be
discussed at the ICANN meeting in Los Angeles, October 2007. She
also presented the challenges for the Africa Region. One of the
issues highlighted was the language barrier and the lack of resources
to have the adequate expertise for the translations. She also mentioned
that for the codification of languages do not include any African
language and invited the players in Africa to address this issue.
She also invited contribution for drafting the NRO terms of reference.
She highlighted the importance for the African
continent to voice out its requirements at the ICANN meetings and
invited strong participation from this region.
Discussion:
A speaker from the floor asked Anne Rachel to clarify her comment
regarding IDNs in English.
Anne Rachel replied that IDNs are actually right
now leaving us a lot of problem in regards to policies being put
in place. She further expressed that in this region the Housa language
is used and that she is not comfortable in self representing this
language group as a whole.
The speaker from the floor thanked her for her
English clarification, he then added that this community does need
to know and that more needs to be done.
Anne Rachel agreed.
A speaker from the floor - asked about the similar
use of dot.cat for a linguistic group.
Anne Rachel responded that dot.cat agreed and supported
the idea that catalonean was a linguistic community and that they
wished to preserve this language and that using dot.cat enabled
them to be a part of it.
To view the presentation, click
here.
vii) IANA Report – Leo Vegoda
Leo Vegoda presented the new IANA website. He
gave an update on the recent Number allocations: to RIR and those
returned to IANA. He also gave an update on the DNS work and the
new IPv4 Registry Format DNS Work
– In-addr.arpa
– DNS
To view the presentation, click
here.
viii) AfNOG Report - Sekyen Niyang
Sunday noted that he thought it more appropriate
for Sekyen Niyang to do this presentation. (from NGNOG)
Sekyen provided an overview of AfNOG, its objectives
and a brief history of its achievements. She noted that many countries
were already planning on holding similar meetings.
She also provided an overview of meeting participants’
background, noting that NgNOG is primarily organised by education
and research institutions, which has brought about an increase of
educational and research institutions in AfNOG.
She commented on some of the challenges confronting
AfNOG, noting that language was a barrier as it presently was only
presented in French and English, and that AfNOG hope to be able
to present in local languages in the future.
She provided an overview of AfNOG achievements,
noting that AfNOG had trained over 800 internet engineers and that
former students are now instructors. She also noted that Nigeria
is adding two new tracks in November 2007.
She invited participants to attend AfNOG9-9/AfrNIC 8 in May 2008,
which will be held in Rabat.
To view the presentation, click
here .
ix) AfTLD Report – Michuki Mwangi
Michuki Mwangi gave an overview of the roles and
highlighted the challenges faced by Cctld. He emphasised the direct
relationship between internet penetration and domain name registration.
He gave an update on the activities of the AfTLD activities. He
highlighted participation at local and international level. He mentioned
collaboration with AfriNIC though the MOU that has been signed,
participation in the AfriNIC events, ICANN, IGF. He mentioned that
this is important for the Representation of the African continent.
He highlighted the focus areas for AfTLD. He mentioned that one
of the important challenges will be fund raising activities.
To view the presentation, click
here.
x) 32 bit ASN numbers - Phil Smith
Based on the fact the 16 bit ASN numbers will
be exhausted soon, the internet community has started working to
extend the ASN pool to 32 bits. A description of all the specifications
can be found in the RFC 4893.
These 32 bit ASN numbers are available on request since January
2007. The representation of these numbers is still on discussion.
For the author what is important here is to note that the 32 bit
is compatible with the 16 but ASN numbers.
There is no need to throw out old routers or replace old 16 bits
ASN numbers with the new 32 bits ASN. In term of functionality only
local routers will need to support the 16 bits ASN, remote routers
will support the 32 bits ASN. What has changed is the new BGP attributes
AS4_PATH and AS4_AGGREGATOR. Philip Smith said also that some implementations
already exist. These implementations are Quagga, OpenBGPd, JunOSE
and RedBACK. Cisco also supports this since IOS-RX 3.4 release.
Discussion:
A speaker from the floor asked if he needs to get a new router.
Philip further explained that if you have an existing
16-bit number you do not need to do anything, but if you are new
and you are going to use a 32-bit ASN then, yes, you will.
A speaker from the floor asked Philip to please
spread this information so that people in Africa do not throw out
their routers.
Philip stated that nobody in this room will need
to do anything, but in 2010 they will need to.
To view the presentation, click
here.
xi) Reclaiming the legacy 14.0.0.0/8 addresses
- Leo Vegoda
14.0.0.0/8 Class A addresses are commonly used
in the international system of PDN (Public Data Networks). The main
task in this reclaiming process is mapping this class A address
to the X 121 addresses used in the X25 networks. In most cases one
or two of these addresses are really assigned and only few of them
are used in PDN networks.
Leo explained that there were 984 addresses and
that there were 29 contacts.
He added that it took him personally about 100
hours of work for research and liaison for under 1000 addresses.
He noted that the workload varied for the networks, ranging from
5 minutes to a few hours spread over a few days. He further noted
that one organisation re-numbered their networks in order to tidy
it up and hand them back.
Leo summarised the workload as being 3 1/2 hours
per registration. He added that this is a lot of work for low value
addresses as it is difficult, however this does not mean that address
space is not worth reclaiming.
To view the presentation, click
here.
xii) Internet Routing Registry for Africa
– Mark Elkins
Mark explained that currently there is not a Routing
registry for African and that presently double work is needed as
double registering is required without an African Routing Registry,
He explained that a routing registry was a place
to define and store ones’ given resources, peering and transit
relationships.
He noted that two registry systems do not currently
provide, and identified those as AfriNIC and LACNIC.
He highlighted some issues and advantages of using
AfriNIC for this, highlighting that there would be the downside
of using more AfriNIC bandwidth.
Mark noted the advantages that it should not matter
where your registry is held, and that it allows others to see what
networks/prefixes you can carry. He also noted that it would be
of huge importance to keep the information up to date.
To view the presentation, click
here .
Discussion:
A speaker from the floor asked if Mark imagined that when two database
is provided, that getting the LIRs address space current and updated
will be difficult.
Mark responded by saying that a lot of people are
already keeping their information update. He noted that if you are
peering at home within Africa it may not be the case.
A speaker from the floor commented that the structure
of the database is difficult for us to update as you need to extract
the text and I think that perhaps you could make a friendly user
interface that is easier for people to use.
Mark noted that this is not necessary as at present
you have web and mail.
Frank noted that there will be a presentation later
on MyAfriNIC which will further clarify this.
To view the presentation, click
here.
xiii) Update from Anti-Spam WG –
Jean Robert Hountomey
Jean Robert Hountomey presented the outcome of
the BoF which was held in Abuja during AfriNIC-6 (21 participants)
and the one at AfriNIC-7 on the eve.
He gave a report of the online discussions so far
on the anti-spam mailing list. He also mentioned some areas of work
which is required.
To view the presentation, click
here .
xiv) Discussion on Open Policy Proposals
– Hisham R. Rojoa
The two global IPv4 exhaustion proposals were delivered
today.
1) Global policy for the allocation of the remaining
IPv4 address space, click
here.
2) JPNIC proposal, click
here.
There was consensus that something needs to be
done.
There was consensus that there should be equal
allocation amongst the RIRs.
Both policies were then submitted for a show of
hands to the community to see if there was consensus on the proposals.
For the first policy when called for a show of
hands there were 9 hands in favour.
There was a call for a show of hands for the JPNIC
proposal and there were 5 hands in favour.
When asked who is against both proposals there
was 1 response.
It was determined that the first proposal reached
consensus, but would be referred to the mailing list to determine
consensus on the value of N.
In relation to the first proposal there was a call for a show of
hands for the end count.
N = 1- 6 hands
N = 2 - 6 hands
N = 3 - 0 hands
N = 4 - 0 hands
N = 5 - 0 hands
This policy is now going to the mailing list for further discussion
to determine N = ?
To view the presentation, click
here.
xv) MyAfriNIC Presentation – Frank Nnebe
He presented the new portal and mentioned that
there were main objectives were: Simple, graphical, user-friendly
interface; Member functionality in one place; Provide enhanced service
and support Ensure seamless integration with WHOIS. He gave an update
of the present portal and highlighted the different problems and
difficulties that members may encounter. He demonstrated how MyAfriNIC
is a solution to the various issues. He presented the different
functionalities which includes among others: member., account management,
organisation information, contact information management, user administration,
notifications, billing , on line payment, resource management
He concluded by mentioning that My AfriNIC is a user-friendly Web-based
interface that enables AfriNIC members to manage their account,
information and resources with enhanced service and support.
To view the presentation, click
here.
One speaker from the floor asked to clarify how
the system was more user friendly. Unfortunately, due to some connectivity
issue, the demo had to be postponed to the following day.
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